New Newsgroup Structure

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Suren Behari

New Newsgroup Structure

Post by Suren Behari » 11 Jan 2005, 19:47

 Posted by:  Suren Behari 

Hi,

GUPTA plans on restructuring the Newsgroup. The plan is to create a new Newsgroup Server that has the following structure:

General
Windows
Linux

forum.gupta.announce
forum.win32.activex
forum.linux.activex

forum.jobnet
forum.win32.deployment
forum.linux.deployment

forum.marketing.feedback
forum.win32.team.developer
forum.linux.team.developer

forum.3rdparty.tools
forum.win32.web.extensions

forum.gupta.docs
forum.win32.connectivity
forum.linux.connectivity

forum.gupta.wishlist
forum.win32.reportbuilder
forum.linux.reportbuilder

forum.gupta.cdk
forum.win32.sqlbase
forum.linux.sqlbase

forum.win32.sqlbase.connectivity
forum.linux.sqlbase.connectivity

forum.win32.tom
forum.linux.tom

forum.win32.attachments
forum.linux.attachments

forum.win32.installation
forum.linux.installation

forum.win32.migration
forum.linux.migration

forum.win32.bugreport
forum.linux.bugreport

The existing Newsgroup Server talkto.guptaworldwide.com will be renamed to archive.guptaworldwide.com and contain the following read-only forums:

forum.advanced.programming

forum.cdk

forum.centura.team.developer

forum.centura.web.developer

forum.connectivity

forum.jobnet

forum.marketing.feedback

forum.reportbuilder

forum.sourcecode

forum.sqlbase

forum.sqlwindows

forum.team.object.manager

forum.wishlist

Both Newsgroup servers will operate with read/write privileges for a period of two weeks (following the launch of the new server), to allow for closure of threads. If for some reason a thread cannot close, please repost the message in an appropriate new forum.

Please offer feedback on this proposed changed.

Please find attached the Newsgroup Guidelines.

Thanks,

Suren Behari

Product Manager - Team Developer

Gupta Technologies, LLC

Attachment: NewsGroup Guidelines.pdf

Jim McNamara

New Newsgroup Structure

Post by Jim McNamara » 11 Jan 2005, 20:54

 Posted by:  Jim McNamara 

Hi Suren,

We are long overdue for an overhaul of the newsgroup structure and I am happy to see a move in that direction. I was hoping to see fewer forums instead of more. Since we will all be using the same code lines to accomplish tasks in TD and SQLBase can I suggest that you consolidate a number of the win32 and linux items into the general area. Something like this:

Also note that I dropped activex forums and have only one forum for connectivity. IMHO, the smaller the # of forums, the lower the likelyhood of misplaces postings.

Just my 2 cents.

Thanks,
Jim

Karthik

New Newsgroup Structure

Post by Karthik » 11 Jan 2005, 22:14

 Posted by:  Karthik 

Yes. Fewer Forums

In general, please drop forum.3rdparty.tools, forum.gupta.announce,
forum.win32.installation,forum.win32.migration and
forum.win32.deployment,forum.linux.deployment,forum.linux.migration,
forum.connectivity, activeX

Rename forum.attachments to the old forum.sourcecode.

See, the original marketing.feedback has only a few posts/month. If you
split it across 2-3 forums, then each of the new forums will have only 1
post per month or 1 post every 2 months. A mighty pain.

I mean this very respectfully. This new structure will cause severe
problems in the gupta newsgroups. Not even Oracle has so many newsgroups
and the volume of traffic is very high. I agree with Jim that we need
some consolidation and FAR FEWER newsgroups than proposed.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
TD Windows-->. Have ONE forum for programming,ONE forum for sourcecode,
ONE forum for Bug Reports.

TD Linux-->. Have ONE forum for programming,ONE forum for sourcecode,
ONE forum for Bug Reports.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
SQL Base Windows -- Have ONE For Windows
SQLBase LINUX -- Have ONE for Linux
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Have ONE Forum for FAQ (Very Important). Same forum across SQLBase and
TD product lines.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Have ONE Forum EACH for MArketing Feedback, JobNet, CDK, Wishlist, Web
Extension, Reportbuilder, TOM.
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Thanks
Karthik

Suren Behari

New Newsgroup Structure

Post by Suren Behari » 12 Jan 2005, 01:21

 Posted by:  Suren Behari 

Thanks for the feedback.

I will rework the list and post for further review.

Thanks,
Suren

Yannick Fenner

New Newsgroup Structure

Post by Yannick Fenner » 12 Jan 2005, 09:07

 Posted by:  Yannick Fenner 

Another thing to consider is the real need to create an attachment forum.

I mean, it's not always great to load a file when reading a message, but
it's always better than having an answer to a question in a forum, and the
attachment in another forum. I really don't think it will help, especially
in the long run where you'll have plenty of attachments. Sometime I have
trouble to find a problem posted a few weeks ago, now I'll have to find the
attachment too.. ugh.

After all.. if such files are really a problem, don't read the messages
which have an attachment file. For the majority of readers, I don't think it
will cause that much of a problem especially considering connections are
faster and faster these days.

Just my 2 cents... it's highly possible this idea is used on some forums but
still, I really don't think it is a positive change.

PS : And if my english is harsh, please notice I'm a french speaking user.
;)

Rainer Ebert

New Newsgroup Structure

Post by Rainer Ebert » 12 Jan 2005, 11:56

 Posted by:  Rainer Ebert 

Yes fewer forums!
Rainer

Martin Knopp

New Newsgroup Structure

Post by Martin Knopp » 12 Jan 2005, 12:23

 Posted by:  Martin Knopp 

I also strongly preferr less forums.

As we are a provider of 3rdparty tools for GUPTA I would prefer to see a
special forum for announcements for such 3rdparty tool providers - it
shouldn't be a support forum for this tools however but I think a
consolidated place to get an overview of available and actively marketed
3rdparty solutions is benefical for all TD users. I think having such a
forum is not a problem at all - if one doesn't want to read it he simply can
ignore it.

i

Martin Knopp

New Newsgroup Structure

Post by Martin Knopp » 12 Jan 2005, 12:29

 Posted by:  Martin Knopp 

hit send too fast...

I think that there is no real need at the moment to split all forums into
windows and linux

My suggestion would be

forum.gupta.marketing
forum.gupta.wishlist
forum.jobnet
forum.3rdparty.announce

forum.td.programming
forum.td.programming.webextensions
forum.td.tom
forum.td.bugreport
forum.td.deployment.win32
forum.td.deployment.linux
forum.td.faq

forum.sqlbase.programming
forum.sqlbase.administration
forum.sqlbase.administration.win32
forum.sqlbase.administration.linux
forum.sqlbase.bugreport
forum.sqlbase.faq

Karthik

New Newsgroup Structure

Post by Karthik » 12 Jan 2005, 23:45

 Posted by:  Karthik 

>
Hi,

The new forum that they are proposing will ensure very little people
will hear about your company's new offerings. People generally check
Marketing news where you are currently allowed to post third party
offerings. If you really want the forum, Ok. But just ensure that
people who post compilmentary software can also post in marketing.feedback.

Hence, i think Gupta will be doing third party companies a disfavor by
having a new forum because many of those who see marketing feedback will
not/may not subscribe to the new forum. In short, you get more people to
read your posts in marketing.feedback.

We need less forums here please.

Thanks
Karthik

Martin Knopp

New Newsgroup Structure

Post by Martin Knopp » 13 Jan 2005, 08:12

 Posted by:  Martin Knopp 

>

Hi,

AFAIK forum.marketing.feedback is not officially opened for 3rd party
announcements today. If this policy changes I could happily live with
posting annoucements there but having an extra forum for 3rd party
annoucements allows everybody to easily choose if he wants to see such
announcements or not.

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New Newsgroup Structure

Post by Mirko » 25 Jan 2005, 17:46

 Posted by:  Mirko BONANNO 

Hi Suren,
first of all thanks for listening our wishes (who said they don't care about us ?) !!!
The bug report forum is a must have !!!
But can we immagine something like forum.FAQ ? We should not be able to post messages to this (read only) forum but someone (in charge with that) would feed it !
I noticed that there is so much stuff about certains topics(for example reorganize/load/unload) that a newbee will not be able to pic up the right information !!!

Ciao
Mirko

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