Team Developer 2005 for Windows and Linux now available

[Kristie Wells]

 Posted by:  Kristie Wells 

Fast Track Your Application Development
Team DeveloperT 2005 opens the door to cross platform development and
deployment ensuring the investment you are making can be leveraged in the
Linux as well as the Windows market - greatly enhancing your return on
investment and profitability.

Get Team Developer for Linux for only $995/?995!

As a limited time offer, Team Developer 2005 for Linux is available for only
$995 or ?995! This promotion ends June 30, 2005 when the price of Team
Developer 2005 for Linux will return to $2,995 or ?2,995. GUPTA customers
on current Team Developer for Windows GLS** can buy Team Developer 2005 for
Linux for only $795 or ?795 through June 30, 2005. So take advantage NOW,
save $ 2000/? 2000 and be the first out there with a Linux business
solution!

New Cross Platform Bundle
Newcomers to cross platform development can buy Team Developer 2005 cross
platform bundle for $3,495 or ?3,495 through June 30, 2005. The Team
Developer cross platform bundle contains a complete version of both Team
Developer 2005 for Windows and Team Developer 2005 for Linux

Team Developer for Windows now only $2,995!

The Team Developer 2005 for Windows price has been reduced to $2,995 or
?2,995 from $4,995. Upgrades to Team Developer 2005 for Windows are offered
at $2,395 or ?2,395 down from $3,995.

The top reasons to upgrade to Team Developer 2005

a.. Cross platform development and deployment for Linux and Windows
b.. Improved runtime and compilation speed
c.. Easy Quest to ReportBuilder migration
d.. Many ReportBuilder usability enhancements
e.. Enriched ReportBuilder programming
f.. Improved Find & Replace for higher developer productivity
g.. Easy migration from Team Developer 1.5 or earlier

More about all new Team Developer 2005 for Windows benefits can be found
here:

http://www.guptaworldwide.com/Products/TD_WhatsNew.aspx

More about Team Developer 2005 for Linux:
http://www.guptaworldwide.com/Products/TD_Linux.aspx

Find detailed information about all ReportBuilder 2005 benefits, including
new feature animations here:

http://www.guptaworldwide.com/Products/RB2005_WhatsNew.aspx

To purchase Team Developer 2005, please contact an approved GUPTA Partner at
http://www.guptaworldwide.com/Partners/Default.aspx or your local GUPTA
sales representative at sales@guptaworldwide.com.

All currencies are either US Dollar or Euro. All prices without local sales
tax and/or VAT.

** GUPTA GLS customers must be current as of December 31, 2004.

[StefanM]

 Posted by:  Stefan Misch 

Kristie,

have you noticed, that the conversion rate between US and EUR currency is
not 1:1? Why must a European pay about 30% more for TD2005? I always
thought that your European and especially the German customers are one of
the most loyal customers. Is that the reward? Martin (Teetz), is this really
a good strategy?

If I take the US price as basis, then the current price in EUR should be
about 760 EUR, so with some additional costs for shipping and whatever else
I would considder 800 EUR a fair price for Europe!

Sorry, just my 2 cents...

Stefan.

[cschubert]

 Posted by:  Christian Schubert 

Stefan,

Full Ack.


That's probably due to the tremendous cost of localisation.


Christian Schubert

[Jim McNamara]

 Posted by:  Jim McNamara 

It may reflect the fact that TD/SQLBase are thriving in Europe and
struggling here in the US.

[Paul Buxton]

 Posted by:  Paul Buxton 

Not a valid excuse to shaft the Europeans. If we all refuse to upgrade
the they might actually take notice!

[Jim McNamara]

 Posted by:  Jim McNamara 

Not trying to justify it, just commenting on the business reality.

[michael]

 Posted by:  michael hummel 

i am not interested in x-platform
i don´t need linux, i use WinXP
i don´t need report builder or quest, i use MS-Office and Acrobat

i need a modern and powerful IDE and Compiler for programming!!!! good
windows based client/server applications.

i have GLS since SQLWindows 4.0 (1993),
i have payed several thousend Dollars for GLS
since TD 1.2 in 1997 there are poor new features,
no language expansion for years,
same old features in the form designer
TD 3.1 is windows 95 style

do i need TD 2005 ?
should i cancel my GLS if not?

michael

[J.G. Mischke]

 Posted by:  J.G. Mischke 


All YOU need is help!!!

[Ifo]

 Posted by:  Ifo 

I must agree with you, Michael. We cancelled GLS at CTD 1.5.1
and saved many dollars, we are still working with 1.5.
Now we are very carefully considering upgrade to TD-2005.
IMHO, TD seems to be in dead-end road - it's not possible
to change SAL to something really object oriented because
of backward compatibility.
--
Ifo, tangram software, Slovakia

[michael]

 Posted by:  michael hummel 

if you want to help me, ok - i have a lot of projects. i want to program
my projects faster than now (designing, class-programming, testing,
deploying, ...) , i think there are no enhancement in TD for many years.

look at the threads for Office Embedding, Coding Assistent, OOP, .. and
you know what i want to say.

michael

[Thomas Lauzi]

 Posted by:  Thomas Lauzi 

I agree, there are no very glorious new features, or they are poor
implemented in the new versions.
A new window engine should come in TD2006 and also Unicode and other
features...(look at their roadmap)

For their size, they develop too much different things and are not able to
keep everything of them state-of-the-art, I think.Other companies care only
for one of these...
- Sqlbase, Quest,Sql-Tools
- TD, TOM
- WAM
- Reportbuilder
Also they lost 2-3 years with developing the "old" TD 3.0 with
HTML-features, which was canceled in their Centura days.

The problem is,that most customers are "old" customers and have developed a
windows client-server application, or a WAM app.They want new look´n`feel,
because the standard for windows application has changed by the years and
IMHO a update is more than overdue.

The featurelist of TD2005 describes mainly X-platform and report-builder, so
you must decide....
But look in their roadmap to decide..

Thomas L.

[michael]

 Posted by:  michael hummel 

thank you thomas and ifo,

i will look at the roadmap, but i think the roadmap is changing
synchronous with the gupta management.

example:
many years ago: SAL & Java
years ago: SAL & .NET,
now: SAL & Linux,
next: SAL & Symbian :wink:

so, my question to me is "pay GLS for what?"

[StefanM]

 Posted by:  Stefan Misch 

Did anybody of you notice, that Gupta lowered the price for full version of
TD, but the GLS price was not adapted?
Up to now the price for a GLS was 20% of the price for the full version. At
least here in Germany, the price for the GLS remained the same...

With 2 open bugs (81675 as of 10/12/04, 81736 as of 09/16/04, which initilly
was 79841 as of 01/20/04 but was only fixed for strings) still logged in
Log-A-Bug and not fixed in TD3.1-PTF3...

Stefan

P.S.: I know that nobody is realy interested in my desicion, but
nevertheless I can't keep my mouth shut:
I will not buy a TD2005 Linux version because of Gupta's new pricing and
currency conversion modell.