New Newsgroup Structure

[SurenBehari]

 Posted by:  Suren Behari 

Hi,

GUPTA plans on restructuring the Newsgroup. The plan is to create a new Newsgroup Server that has the following structure:

General
Windows
Linux

forum.gupta.announce
forum.win32.activex
forum.linux.activex

forum.jobnet
forum.win32.deployment
forum.linux.deployment

forum.marketing.feedback
forum.win32.team.developer
forum.linux.team.developer

forum.3rdparty.tools
forum.win32.web.extensions

forum.gupta.docs
forum.win32.connectivity
forum.linux.connectivity

forum.gupta.wishlist
forum.win32.reportbuilder
forum.linux.reportbuilder

forum.gupta.cdk
forum.win32.sqlbase
forum.linux.sqlbase

forum.win32.sqlbase.connectivity
forum.linux.sqlbase.connectivity

forum.win32.tom
forum.linux.tom

forum.win32.attachments
forum.linux.attachments

forum.win32.installation
forum.linux.installation

forum.win32.migration
forum.linux.migration

forum.win32.bugreport
forum.linux.bugreport

The existing Newsgroup Server talkto.guptaworldwide.com will be renamed to archive.guptaworldwide.com and contain the following read-only forums:

forum.advanced.programming

forum.cdk

forum.Centura.team.developer

forum.Centura.web.developer

forum.connectivity

forum.jobnet

forum.marketing.feedback

forum.reportbuilder

forum.sourcecode

forum.sqlbase

forum.sqlwindows

forum.team.object.manager

forum.wishlist

Both Newsgroup servers will operate with read/write privileges for a period of two weeks (following the launch of the new server), to allow for closure of threads. If for some reason a thread cannot close, please repost the message in an appropriate new forum.

Please offer feedback on this proposed changed.

Please find attached the Newsgroup Guidelines.

Thanks,

Suren Behari

Product Manager - Team Developer

Gupta Technologies, LLC

[Krister Henningsson]

 Posted by:  Krister Henningsson 

Firstly, Thanks Suren,

Minimum one forum pro operating system ( - meaning that the number of forums
doubles)
One forum pro td version OR one forum for supported versions and one for
deprecrated versions (after all it is The official Gupta forum)
One (1) general dicussion forum - outgoing Information from Gupta only over
www.guptaworldwide.com
Outgoing answers to specific questions over the forum.
Let 3rd Party use their own web pages for their marketing (keep the need for
3rd party tool at a minimum, Gupta)
Keep the docs on the homepage.
A forum pro product (tom,sqlBase etc)

Less is More than Smart
More is Less than Smart (eg. Michael More:-)

os * product * version (or version group)
2 * 4 * 2 = 16 groups (opposed to the original 32 groups)

Meine zwei rappen :wink:

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[Didiman]

 Posted by:  Andreas Neugebauer 

just my 2 euro-cents:

I would prefer to have not too many newsgroups with similiar threads, 'cause than there are many crosspostings.

[RainerE]

 Posted by:  Rainer Ebert 

Why didn't you crosspost this message?
That's one of the biggest problem with so many forums that one who reads
all/most of them has to read a thread multiple times if it is not
crossposted. So please as few forums as possible. And use crossposts if a
message really has to go to muliple forums.
Rainer

Hi,

GUPTA plans on restructuring the Newsgroup. The plan is to create a new
Newsgroup Server that has the following structure:

General
Windows
Linux

forum.gupta.announce
forum.win32.activex
forum.linux.activex

forum.jobnet
forum.win32.deployment
forum.linux.deployment

forum.marketing.feedback
forum.win32.team.developer
forum.linux.team.developer

forum.3rdparty.tools
forum.win32.web.extensions

forum.gupta.docs
forum.win32.connectivity
forum.linux.connectivity

forum.gupta.wishlist
forum.win32.reportbuilder
forum.linux.reportbuilder

forum.gupta.cdk
forum.win32.sqlbase
forum.linux.sqlbase

forum.win32.sqlbase.connectivity
forum.linux.sqlbase.connectivity

forum.win32.tom
forum.linux.tom

forum.win32.attachments
forum.linux.attachments

forum.win32.installation
forum.linux.installation

forum.win32.migration
forum.linux.migration

forum.win32.bugreport
forum.linux.bugreport

The existing Newsgroup Server talkto.guptaworldwide.com will be renamed to
archive.guptaworldwide.com and contain the following read-only forums:

forum.advanced.programming

forum.cdk

forum.Centura.team.developer

forum.Centura.web.developer

forum.connectivity

forum.jobnet

forum.marketing.feedback

forum.reportbuilder

forum.sourcecode

forum.sqlbase

forum.sqlwindows

forum.team.object.manager

forum.wishlist

Both Newsgroup servers will operate with read/write privileges for a period
of two weeks (following the launch of the new server), to allow for closure
of threads. If for some reason a thread cannot close, please repost the
message in an appropriate new forum.

Please offer feedback on this proposed changed.

Please find attached the Newsgroup Guidelines.

Thanks,

Suren Behari

Product Manager - Team Developer

Gupta Technologies, LLC

[wilhelm]

 Posted by:  Wilhelm Speck 

Simply: I wouldn't like the splitting of the forums/OS at all.
This doesn't really help. (see prerelease forums)

Wilhelm

[Tobias Krüeger]

 Posted by:  Tobias Krüeger 

[..]

Suren,
just a general thought.
You are promising an easy cross plattform development. Assuming this
most questions concerning the TD would affect all plattforms.
So the main traffic should go into the general groups (forum.td.all_os)
and only the OS specifiy questions should be deviced into other groups
(e.g. forum.td.linux / forum.td.win32).

Tobias

[michael]

 Posted by:  Michael Hummel 

i prefer the way product(general)-> to -> product(specific)

forum.td
forum.td.linux
forum.td.win32
forum.td.bugreport
forum.td.installation
forum.td.wishlist
forum.td.web

forum.sqlbase
forum.sqlbase.connectivity
forum.sqlbase.linux
forum.sqlbase.win32
forum.sqlbase.bugreport
forum.sqlbase.installation
forum.sqlbase.wishlist

forum.tom

forum.reportbuilder

Hi,

GUPTA plans on restructuring the Newsgroup. The plan is to create a new
Newsgroup Server that has the following structure:

GeneralWindowsLinux
forum.gupta.announceforum.win32.activexforum.linux.activex
forum.jobnetforum.win32.deploymentforum.linux.deployment
forum.marketing.feedbackforum.win32.team.developerforum.linux.team.developer
forum.3rdparty.toolsforum.win32.web.extensions
forum.gupta.docsforum.win32.connectivityforum.linux.connectivity
forum.gupta.wishlistforum.win32.reportbuilderforum.linux.reportbuilder
forum.gupta.cdkforum.win32.sqlbaseforum.linux.sqlbase
forum.win32.sqlbase.connectivityforum.linux.sqlbase.connectivity
forum.win32.tomforum.linux.tom
forum.win32.attachmentsforum.linux.attachments
forum.win32.installationforum.linux.installation
forum.win32.migrationforum.linux.migration
forum.win32.bugreportforum.linux.bugreport

The existing Newsgroup Server talkto.guptaworldwide.com will be renamed to
archive.guptaworldwide.com and contain the following read-only forums:

forum.advanced.programming
forum.cdk
forum.Centura.team.developer
forum.Centura.web.developer
forum.connectivity
forum.jobnet
forum.marketing.feedback
forum.reportbuilder
forum.sourcecode
forum.sqlbase
forum.sqlwindows
forum.team.object.manager
forum.wishlist

Both Newsgroup servers will operate with read/write privileges for a period
of two weeks (following the launch of the new server), to allow for closure
of threads. If for some reason a thread cannot close, please repost the
message in an appropriate new forum.

Please offer feedback on this proposed changed.

Please find attached the Newsgroup Guidelines.

Thanks,
Suren Behari
Product Manager - Team Developer
Gupta Technologies, LLC

[Jarmo Muukka]

 Posted by:  Jarmo Muukka 

I like this structure. One suggestion though. I think that connectivity
should not be under forum.sqlbase. I think that it should be just
forum.connectivity, because when you use SQLWindows, TD or what ever tool
and connect to SQL Server or to Oracle, you don't use SQLBase.

JMu

[Martin Knopp]

 Posted by:  Martin Knopp 

I like this structure too but I miss some general forums like

forum.announcements (until now forum.marketing.feedback)
forum.announcements.3rdparty
forum.jobnet

Plus I think the two .installation forums are questionable - if you look
into the existing postings only very few of them are related to
installation. I think we all would be better off keeping this into the
normal product forum or the platform specific product forum (probably this
is the best place for installation issues as most likely they are very
platform dependent).

And it might make sense to split the forum.td.web into
forum.td.web.extensions and forum.td.web.aspnet to give those TD users a
dedicated forum which are combining the power of TD with the power of
ASP.NET.

Just my 2 cents.

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[michael]

 Posted by:  Michael Hummel 

hello again,

i only want to show the structure in general. the suggested structure from
suren is

product(specific),
product(specific),
...

the problem of this structure is, where do i post my question when i have a
general question, or when i don´t know exactly wich forum is the right one.
we all know what will happen.

So i prefer this structure

product(general)
product(general).specific1
product(general).specific2
...
...

the forumlist i posted 28-Jan is not complete, so Martins and Jarmo
additions are right.

chears
michael

[Lubos Vnuk]

 Posted by:  Lubos Vnuk 

These could work for me (please note that I removed forum.td.win32):

forum.td
forum.td.reportbuilder
forum.td.cdk
forum.td.web.extensions
forum.td.tom
forum.td.linux
forum.td.bugreport
forum.td.wishlist
forum.td.faq

forum.sqlbase
forum.sqlbase.linux
forum.sqlbase.win32
forum.sqlbase.bugreport
forum.sqlbase.wishlist
forum.sqlbase.faq

forum.connectivity
forum.announcements
forum.announcements.3rdparty
forum.jobnet

Regards,
Lubos.

[Bassem Fadlia]

 Posted by:  Bassem Fadlia 

Hi,
Please let me know if you encountered the following problem or know how to get around it.

We have an application that uses OLEDB to connect to a Sybase Database and it executes some stored procedures with SQLPrepareSP and SQLExecute functions.
The procedures may excute successfully once or twice then crash with a memory error "The instruction 0x77.... referenced memory at 0xfff.... The memory could not be read"

Thanks.
--Bassem

[Krister Henningsson]

 Posted by:  Krister Henningsson 

Hello Bassem,

gupta version and ptf?
I seem to remember an oledb memory leak
fixed in the latest ptf (but I won't tell you wich version :wink:

Regards,
Kriss

--

Hi,
Please let me know if you encountered the following problem or know how to
get around it.

We have an application that uses OLEDB to connect to a Sybase Database and
it executes some stored procedures with SQLPrepareSP and SQLExecute
functions.
The procedures may excute successfully once or twice then crash with a
memory error "The instruction 0x77.... referenced memory at 0xfff.... The
memory could not be read"

Thanks.
--Bassem

[Bassem Fadlia]

 Posted by:  Bassem Fadlia 

We're using Gupta 3.1.0 Build 13546. I think that's before any PTF.
PTF1 is build 13581

Please plzzzz tell me which version and PTF it was fixed :)

Thanks.
--Bassem

[Bassem Fadlia]

 Posted by:  Bassem Fadlia 

Hi Kriss,
Actually, we applied PTF3 which is the latest and it didn't fix the problem.
Let me know what you think.
Regards.
-Bassem