Posted by: Hannes Bachmann
Gupta 3.0 ptf1 with large outlinefiles the editor chrashes all the time and
has hang ups. It's not possible to describe when this error happens exactly
because it happens so often.
Sorry, but better you make a working editor than a new homepage!!!
Posted by: Werner Preininger
I have noticed a similar problem with a source file of 4 MB and CTD 3.0. If you
do a right mouse click to get e.g. the "library item info" the memory
consumption of the editor goes up to 700 MB ! After some (long) time of
swapping the context menue will be shown. If you do not like to wait for such a
long time, you have to kill the process and start again.
Also the active coding assistant takes a lot of resources, therefore I turn
this option off for large source files.
Posted by: Rainer Ebert
This problem also happens on TD 2.1 PTF1.
Posted by: K.Henningsson
Just a humble suggestion.
save the large source file in an other format (.apt if it is .app and .app
if it is .apt)
Does the problem dissappear?
Be aware of that saving in .app format can sometimes cause corruption of the
I think it is the enumeration of the source that is so memory and thus time-
consuming. Text and binary tokens must be processed differently. A
missplaced (according to the text scanner) indent can completly disrupt the
Just a thought :-)
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Posted by: Jim McNamara
What's your platform & what do you consider a 'large outline'. I have a
couple outlines > 3.5 Mb and experience no such issues. (W2K, 2.GHz P4,
Posted by: Vladimir Gloushenkov
There is something smelling bad there. It definitely saw TD 2.1 eating all
available memory when
I right-clicked on an item included from library (absolutely everything was
in text format). I have an impression that it happens when you have
libraries that reference each other - like a.apl includes b.apl and b.apl
Maybe in a more complicated case than that and depending on the order in
which the libraries are included.
I am not saying that circular referencing is good practice (sometimes it has
advantages) but it's no excuse for IDE to crash.
Posted by: sherlock
2.1 PTF1 works fine here.
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Posted by: Igor Ivanovic
There is definitely something wrong with your installation or your
We're using TD 2.1 PTF4 and TD 3.0 on a daily basis with apps greater
than 10 Megs (actually cca 14Megs both) with no problems whatsoever.
"Go To Library Item" executes in 1-2 secs on P3-800Mhz, and "Library
Item Info" is showed instantly (milliseconds).
We work with apps in normal mode (with regular backups in text mode),
and refresh the app from text every now and then.
Not a single line of code lost for years.
Posted by: Dave Seay
How about 38 meg apps? We've got them and have no problem (CTD2.1 PTF4 and
Michel de Becdelièvre
Posted by: Michel de Becdelièvre
I signaled this behaviour to Gupta on TD 3PTF1 some time ago. Waiting for
Log-A-Bug has reviewed the issue listed below and determined that this is a
defect. The defect number is 78514.
For further information watch for the fix in the Fixes.Wri file in future
PTF's or Releases.
Short description of problem:
Posted by: Manuel
I'm having the same problem, but only when I'm browsing in classes and
descendant windows. Global functions are not affected.... The curious thing
is, it once worked!
Tested on W2k and XP
Posted by: gbd
Have similar problems,
Perhaps it's the ActiveX in base classes that do that,
I attempt to do a merge library (5Méga source)
so the activeX event Handler are no more supported..
It's very frustrating...
Posted by: Dion Edhouse
I noticed something similar in coverting a 1.5.1 app to 3.0 for a client.
Found a work-around though... seems to only happen when underlying APL's
have been save compiled (ie. Save as APP but with a APL extension). I found
that opening the libraries and saving them as text with a APL extension
solved the problem, but you will have to start at the bottom of the library
Posted by: Suren Behari
It sounds like the majority on this thread have no problem with "large"
Outline files - even as large as 38Mbs.
I tried to reproduce this problem yesterday using:
- TD 2.1 & all PTFs
- TD 3.0 & PTF1
- Beta Build 9051
It would help Gupta if you could provide the simplest of test cases, so that
Engineering can easily reproduce in-house. Since this happens so often for
you, you should have no problem coming up with a reproducible case.
Please email me privately with more details.
Posted by: gbd
As i said, have the same problem,
but not repoductible with smaller source code including the same activex.
I had to canceled my migration to ctd30
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